I'm on a roll . . .

[aelfgyfu_mead]

I've been meaning to post about a few tv shows for ages. I have fifteen minutes until dinner. This is an excellent time to make a post that is not so long that people won't read it! Spoilers may lurk behind any and all cuts. So may complaints.


Eastwick
I haven't seen this most recent episode yet. I am still furious that the writers apparently thought it was funny for Joanna to spell a guy into having sex with her. It's even funnier that he's gay, right? And funnier still that he's married? The only thing that could possibly make it funnier is if his husband finds out about the sex, right?

Here's the short note I didn't take the time to write to the writers of Eastwick because they would probably never read it (being already out of work by that time):

Dear Writers:
Joanna forcing a man to have sex with her via magic is exactly as funny as a man drugging Joanna and forcing her to have sex with him. That is to say, not at all.
Did you think that the fact that it was a gay man made it funnier (ha! He isn't even attracted to women!) or okay ("I wasn't really cheating, honest; you know in my right mind I'd never have done it, so she must have done something to me . . .")? You were completely mistaken.
I'd stop watching your show, but the network has ensured that I can't do it for much longer anyway. Maybe I'll see if you can redeem yourself at all.

(Okay, so it would have been far longer and less flippant, which is why I didn't write it.)

I still want the Roxie and Daryl Show, but I think at this point I'd rather not see these writers do it.


SPOILER SPACE



MORE SPOILER SPACE




Oh, crud—fifteen minutes already? One more:

Stargate:Universe

So now Young is a premeditated killer? He left a man to die on the planet. Rush was bad, but Young is a
murderer. What's next? Do we find out that when he showed up in someone's body to punch out Telford, he actually killed him?

Young didn't trust any kind of justice on ship, apparently. Yet he trusts Eli to keep the secret of what he knew—which is also the secret of why Young might have been motivated not to bring Rush back alive. He made Eli complicit.

Oh, and Rush is even scummier than I thought. I don't really think he'll die. I suppose he might, though: he surely has the highest salary of anyone, so that would free up the budget. After all, they killed SGA because they couldn't afford it, right?

Is there any reason why I should continue to watch this show? Aside from Eli?

Comments

[aurora-novarum.livejournal.com]

Greer and his sweet potato?

[aelfgyfu_mead]

My gosh! I honestly did forget Greer when I wrote this short post in haste this afternoon. Greer almost makes the show worth watching by himself.

[ariadne83]

Greer almost makes the show worth watching by himself.

He so does! (OMG I thought I was the only one who thought that)

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

Yep. That episode was pretty much it for me. The SGC has absolutely no control over an astonishingly immoral group of people. I was left thinking that none of the leaders are fit to lead and that, much to my surprise, Chloe really should be in charge.

The Greer scene, and Chloe standing up for a measure of due process were the only good things about the episode. At the beginning of the series, I thought mutiny was a danger. Now I would cheer them on.

I am grateful beyond measure that the involvement of SG-1 characters is so limited. Even so, it's been somewhat damaging to Jack. I may have to consider this seriously AU as it's impossible to believe that our SGC is this ineffectual, and that these people made it in.

[rodlox.livejournal.com]

of course the SGC is ineffectual - it managed to skate along for 8+ years where the only team that could accomplish anything was the flagship team! (I still wonder why they didn't send all the other sg teams back where they found them)

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

I don't see that as being the case at all. There were numerous references to missions by other teams. Sam and Daniel frequently studied items that had been discovered by people other than themselves. While SG-1 was involved in most of the really sketchy missions and first contact, it's because that was what the team was designed to do. The other teams are more specialized. We just focus on missions that involve SG-1 because the show is about SG-1.

[rodlox.livejournal.com]

>I don't see that as being the case at all.
apologies: I'm not good at being silly or being sarcastic.

my point was that, almost any time a non-SG1 team showed up, it was to
a) get rescued by SG1
b) make a mess that SG1 cleans up ('Spirits' among such eps)
c) get killed off while helping SG1 (in Atlantis, 'Whispers' sorta did this)

besides, the whole point of SG:Universe is that none of those people were supposed to be on that ship - Young says so repeatedly. so blaming the show for having idiots out there, kinda either misses the point, or something, I'm not sure what.

sorry.

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

We only see SG-1 involved when there's a problem. That doesn't say anything about the missions where their help wasn't needed. Presuming that the other teams went on as many missions as SG-1, and there were an increasingly large number of teams, that's a heck of a lot of missions that we know nothing about. There's simply no reason for us to have heard about those missions since they didn't involve SG-1. Of course, they could have taken the first 15 minutes of every episode to debrief us on the actions of other teams, but that would have been less than ideal. It would also not have been all that interesting to watch SG-1 kick back and while other people work.

My point was that not only shouldn't those people be out there, not only shouldn't they be in the SGC, they shouldn't be peeling potatoes at Fort Dix.

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

Loved it when Reynolds took over SG-3....he was kick ass!

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

I'm a Dave Dixon fan, I must admit. ;)

[aelfgyfu_mead]

Reynolds rocks!

[aelfgyfu_mead]

Yes! I too was shocked that Chloe was a bastion of sanity and order in the episode!

Even so, it's been somewhat damaging to Jack. I may have to consider this seriously AU as it's impossible to believe that our SGC is this ineffectual, and that these people made it in.
Yes. I can't imagine Jack allowing half the stuff that has gone on. He can't remove Young from Destiny, obviously, but he should assign Telford to isolated duty (where he can't harm other people) and send competent scientists to the Destiny via the stones every chance they get!

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

At this point, I'm all for Chloe taking over the ship. :)

I'm thinking I may have to keep watching so I can write a sequel to 'Daniel in Wonderland' where Daniel goes through the quantum mirror again and ends up in the SGU world. ;)

[aelfgyfu_mead]

Oh, noes! That could be too funny!

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I was thinking of sending Daniel to 'Twilight' world for a sequel, but the first one parodied something about stargate, even if it was only within fandom, so I'd like the second to be stargate related, too. And I do think that Daniel's reaction to the crew of the Destiny, and disarray at the SGC, coud be quite funny. Also, I don't want to read 'Twilight.' ;) I just have to get enough plot details from SGU to do it. Might take a while, since we only get five minutes of actual plot per episode. And I have to figure out how to get Daniel through the mirror and on to the Destiny, because logic says 'ain't going to happen.'

[claudiapriscus.livejournal.com]

hello, random lurker here (I followed a bunch of links so I'm not sure how exactly I found this), but I just wanted to say how much I agree with what you've said.

This show is just so baffling. It doesn't make sense to me within the stargate context. But I had that feeling in the first five minutes, when Jack decided to randomly kidnap some random civilian. and...it just got worse from there. When they got to completely useless(and shady) bodyswapping (when it could have been useful), I just gave up on it ever making sense.

[aelfgyfu_mead]

And I kept trying to make sense of it! I think I must quit it or go mad, because it defies any kind of reason I can bring to bear on it.

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

UGH...I'm Wiccan so I find what happened on Eastwick not only morally offensive, repugnant and digusting - but as a practitioner, I'm outraged and horrified!! This is NOT what magick is for!! It is the total OPPOSITE of what magick is for! And for them to take such a gleeful tone while doing it?! That's even worse! Like it wasn't bad enough that she raped a gay man who's married (whether happily or no!) - she did it with a gift that is to be used to help others. This is just too...*is saddened, disgusted and angered*. And I wonder why people still wish to burn us at the stake?!

Seriously...quit wasting your time with these awful shows. Supernatural is airing on TNT at 10am Mon-Fri starting January 4th. DVR it! Well worth the time, effort and love there!

*hugs you*

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

I adore Supernatural. It's really superb.

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

they've had their mistakes now and again - but overall the fannish (drooling, clawing, crackhead type) love prevents me from seeing it. *Laughs* then again, Kripke DOES pull shit on us just to watch us go nuts! He's evil *nods* - but he gives good story!

*hugs*

Now...just tell HER that! *points at aelfgyfu_mead* - she keeps saying that she isn't sure about getting into it. I've been trying to convince her for two years, lol!

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

I've actually liked the way it went the whole time. It's not always pleasant, but it always leads to tons of character development and new stuff. He's really kept it fresh. I think some of the fans might have preferred that it just stayed 'early days', but it was important that the stakes kept getting higher and things kept getting worse, especially since there was a specific end date.

[aelfgyfu_mead]

I think the writers know nothing about Wicca. The only redeeming aspect to the plot was that the character really seems not to have realized how strong she was and how much she was coercing him. She didn't know that he was gay or married until it was too late. The sad thing is that I really think it's not a terrible show, but a show that alternates brilliance with stupidity that makes my teeth ache. Two of the cast are absolutely awesome.

Eastwick has been canceled, so I think I have somewhere between one and three episodes left. I do think I need to back away from SGU before I am disgusted with the whole Stargate franchise.

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

OY...even worse!! Good show - dumbassedness everywhere!

The further the SG universe has traveled from the original the less inclined I am to watch...SG-1 Mk II wasn't even as bad as some of the things I've seen come out of the aftermath of it's demise. *Sigh*

Seriously...watch SPN - all good, no disappointment with an awesome plot, writing, actors and directing all around - with no variance from the overall story-arc. I think you'd fall in love with Dean, Sam, John, Bobby - shoot, even the bad guys are awesome! Has one of the best first seasons of any show I've ever seen - and just when you think Kripke can't make it any better, you find yourself proven wrong. I start each season with 'He can't possibly top the last one' and end it thinking 'My Gods! How can he possibly top THAT?!'. Yup....

*HUGS*

[aelfgyfu_mead]

Yes, the 'witches' on Eastwick are not Wiccans at all, so at least the show shouldn't really make misunderstandings of Wiccans worse (I hope). The premise is that three women begin to wield magic powers, but they don't know why, and they've spent most of the series so far wondering whether they really have powers or are simply imagining they do. Only the vaguest of spirituality has made any appearance on the show, and the word 'Wicca' hasn't been mentioned at all.

Maybe someday I'll get to SPN! I'm hesitant partly because I'm really sick of shows where characters I like die. (See my icon? Hard choice here—I have several icons of now-dead characters! I could have picked a userpic I have for a different show that shows two characters who were regular, and they died within a few episodes of each other.) I already know a number of the semi-regulars on SPN die. The other thing is that I've so little time I don't feel I can get into a show where I might want to start mainlining episodes! ("Hit me again! I need another!")

[ariadne83]

Chloe really impressed me. I loved Greer as per usual. Wray and Rush and Young all disgusted me.