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I've been meaning to post about a few tv shows for ages. I have fifteen minutes until dinner. This is an excellent time to make a post that is not so long that people won't read it! Spoilers may lurk behind any and all cuts. So may complaints.
Eastwick
I haven't seen this most recent episode yet. I am still furious that the writers apparently thought it was funny for Joanna to spell a guy into having sex with her. It's even funnier that he's gay, right? And funnier still that he's married? The only thing that could possibly make it funnier is if his husband finds out about the sex, right?
Here's the short note I didn't take the time to write to the writers of Eastwick because they would probably never read it (being already out of work by that time):
Dear Writers:
Joanna forcing a man to have sex with her via magic is exactly as funny as a man drugging Joanna and forcing her to have sex with him. That is to say, not at all.
Did you think that the fact that it was a gay man made it funnier (ha! He isn't even attracted to women!) or okay ("I wasn't really cheating, honest; you know in my right mind I'd never have done it, so she must have done something to me . . .")? You were completely mistaken.
I'd stop watching your show, but the network has ensured that I can't do it for much longer anyway. Maybe I'll see if you can redeem yourself at all.
(Okay, so it would have been far longer and less flippant, which is why I didn't write it.)
I still want the Roxie and Daryl Show, but I think at this point I'd rather not see these writers do it.
SPOILER SPACE
MORE SPOILER SPACE
Oh, crud—fifteen minutes already? One more:
Stargate:Universe
So now Young is a premeditated killer? He left a man to die on the planet. Rush was bad, but Young is a
murderer. What's next? Do we find out that when he showed up in someone's body to punch out Telford, he actually killed him?
Young didn't trust any kind of justice on ship, apparently. Yet he trusts Eli to keep the secret of what he knew—which is also the secret of why Young might have been motivated not to bring Rush back alive. He made Eli complicit.
Oh, and Rush is even scummier than I thought. I don't really think he'll die. I suppose he might, though: he surely has the highest salary of anyone, so that would free up the budget. After all, they killed SGA because they couldn't afford it, right?
Is there any reason why I should continue to watch this show? Aside from Eli?
Eastwick
I haven't seen this most recent episode yet. I am still furious that the writers apparently thought it was funny for Joanna to spell a guy into having sex with her. It's even funnier that he's gay, right? And funnier still that he's married? The only thing that could possibly make it funnier is if his husband finds out about the sex, right?
Here's the short note I didn't take the time to write to the writers of Eastwick because they would probably never read it (being already out of work by that time):
Dear Writers:
Joanna forcing a man to have sex with her via magic is exactly as funny as a man drugging Joanna and forcing her to have sex with him. That is to say, not at all.
Did you think that the fact that it was a gay man made it funnier (ha! He isn't even attracted to women!) or okay ("I wasn't really cheating, honest; you know in my right mind I'd never have done it, so she must have done something to me . . .")? You were completely mistaken.
I'd stop watching your show, but the network has ensured that I can't do it for much longer anyway. Maybe I'll see if you can redeem yourself at all.
(Okay, so it would have been far longer and less flippant, which is why I didn't write it.)
I still want the Roxie and Daryl Show, but I think at this point I'd rather not see these writers do it.
SPOILER SPACE
MORE SPOILER SPACE
Oh, crud—fifteen minutes already? One more:
Stargate:Universe
So now Young is a premeditated killer? He left a man to die on the planet. Rush was bad, but Young is a
murderer. What's next? Do we find out that when he showed up in someone's body to punch out Telford, he actually killed him?
Young didn't trust any kind of justice on ship, apparently. Yet he trusts Eli to keep the secret of what he knew—which is also the secret of why Young might have been motivated not to bring Rush back alive. He made Eli complicit.
Oh, and Rush is even scummier than I thought. I don't really think he'll die. I suppose he might, though: he surely has the highest salary of anyone, so that would free up the budget. After all, they killed SGA because they couldn't afford it, right?
Is there any reason why I should continue to watch this show? Aside from Eli?
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The Greer scene, and Chloe standing up for a measure of due process were the only good things about the episode. At the beginning of the series, I thought mutiny was a danger. Now I would cheer them on.
I am grateful beyond measure that the involvement of SG-1 characters is so limited. Even so, it's been somewhat damaging to Jack. I may have to consider this seriously AU as it's impossible to believe that our SGC is this ineffectual, and that these people made it in.
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apologies: I'm not good at being silly or being sarcastic.
my point was that, almost any time a non-SG1 team showed up, it was to
a) get rescued by SG1
b) make a mess that SG1 cleans up ('Spirits' among such eps)
c) get killed off while helping SG1 (in Atlantis, 'Whispers' sorta did this)
besides, the whole point of SG:Universe is that none of those people were supposed to be on that ship - Young says so repeatedly. so blaming the show for having idiots out there, kinda either misses the point, or something, I'm not sure what.
sorry.
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My point was that not only shouldn't those people be out there, not only shouldn't they be in the SGC, they shouldn't be peeling potatoes at Fort Dix.
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and we only see the parts of the Destiny where there is a problem, where emotions are high and tempers likewise - as you say, it would be less than idea (and not all that interesting) to see life on Destiny when nothing's happening and everyone's getting along.
>My point was that not only shouldn't those people be out there, not only shouldn't they be in the SGC, they shouldn't be peeling potatoes at Fort Dix.
that's par for the course when it comes to the SG universe - when the main characters do something that would get RL people sent to Fort Dix (at best), nothing happens to them.
heck, at the very least, Sam would've been vetted to within an inch of her life after the Jolinar incident.
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We also see the commanding officer attempting to murder the lead scientist--the only person besides Eli that has any idea what's going on. Of course that scientist is as unscrupulous and immoral that the other two 'leaders' and think framing the commander of the ship for murder is a dandy idea.
This isn't recognisable as being part of the larger stargate 'universe.' It has more in common with Lord of the Flies. These aren't just flawed people. They're something much worse.
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well, if they follow the protocol set by SG1, there can't be any trial or punishment, because, Daniel said that, as a civilian, he can't be punished by Hammond - and Hammond didn't argue the point.
> A 'guilty until proven innocent' trial by a member of the IOA stretches credibility to the breaking point
*any* trial by a member of the IOA stretches credibility to the breaking point - the IOA has authority over the stargate program and member nations, who in turn have authority over their armed forces and civilians.
Wray technically has *no* authority over any military or civilian personnel on Destiny.
>They can communicate.
oh yes, and that's worked so well previously. {gah, channeling Rush, it seems}
previous communications have not gone well - between Telford nearly destroying the ship, and Young's awaytime interupted at the halfway mark.
> The military would have reported what was going on
to...? (O'Neill's part of the IOA now, now that he's head of Homeworld Security; Telford can't be counted on for impartiality; etc)
>This isn't recognisable as being part of the larger stargate 'universe.
sure it does.
I admit, when Jack was unable to get back to the SGC, he didn't go crazy or evil....but then again, he had something to occupy him.
on the other hand, take Daniel away from the SGC, and he goes nuts. (remember 'Need'?); or how Sheppard tells SG1 members to put a lemon near Rodney who could die or almost die from allergic reactions.
so SGU is keeping with the darker parts of the SG universe that we've already seen pieces of.
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O'Neill isn't part of the IOA, he's part of the Pentagon, the SGC, and the Air Force. American military. The IOA are part of Homeworld Security, not in charge of it.
Those aren't appropriate comparisons. Sheppard was obviously joking and Daniel was addicted to the sarcophagus. He was going through withdrawl, not a sociopath with nothing to blame it on. And they've only been gone a matter of weeks! You can't blame this on the situation. This is who these people are.
SGA delved into immorality, especially after the second season, one of the reasons I didn't like it as much, but they were still trying to do the right thing. These folks aren't.
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Even so, it's been somewhat damaging to Jack. I may have to consider this seriously AU as it's impossible to believe that our SGC is this ineffectual, and that these people made it in.
Yes. I can't imagine Jack allowing half the stuff that has gone on. He can't remove Young from Destiny, obviously, but he should assign Telford to isolated duty (where he can't harm other people) and send competent scientists to the Destiny via the stones every chance they get!
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I'm thinking I may have to keep watching so I can write a sequel to 'Daniel in Wonderland' where Daniel goes through the quantum mirror again and ends up in the SGU world. ;)
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But why should you be bound by logic when the writers of SGU clearly aren't?
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This show is just so baffling. It doesn't make sense to me within the stargate context. But I had that feeling in the first five minutes, when Jack decided to randomly kidnap some random civilian. and...it just got worse from there. When they got to completely useless(and shady) bodyswapping (when it could have been useful), I just gave up on it ever making sense.
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