I'm on a roll . . .

[aelfgyfu_mead]

I've been meaning to post about a few tv shows for ages. I have fifteen minutes until dinner. This is an excellent time to make a post that is not so long that people won't read it! Spoilers may lurk behind any and all cuts. So may complaints.


Eastwick
I haven't seen this most recent episode yet. I am still furious that the writers apparently thought it was funny for Joanna to spell a guy into having sex with her. It's even funnier that he's gay, right? And funnier still that he's married? The only thing that could possibly make it funnier is if his husband finds out about the sex, right?

Here's the short note I didn't take the time to write to the writers of Eastwick because they would probably never read it (being already out of work by that time):

Dear Writers:
Joanna forcing a man to have sex with her via magic is exactly as funny as a man drugging Joanna and forcing her to have sex with him. That is to say, not at all.
Did you think that the fact that it was a gay man made it funnier (ha! He isn't even attracted to women!) or okay ("I wasn't really cheating, honest; you know in my right mind I'd never have done it, so she must have done something to me . . .")? You were completely mistaken.
I'd stop watching your show, but the network has ensured that I can't do it for much longer anyway. Maybe I'll see if you can redeem yourself at all.

(Okay, so it would have been far longer and less flippant, which is why I didn't write it.)

I still want the Roxie and Daryl Show, but I think at this point I'd rather not see these writers do it.


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Oh, crud—fifteen minutes already? One more:

Stargate:Universe

So now Young is a premeditated killer? He left a man to die on the planet. Rush was bad, but Young is a
murderer. What's next? Do we find out that when he showed up in someone's body to punch out Telford, he actually killed him?

Young didn't trust any kind of justice on ship, apparently. Yet he trusts Eli to keep the secret of what he knew—which is also the secret of why Young might have been motivated not to bring Rush back alive. He made Eli complicit.

Oh, and Rush is even scummier than I thought. I don't really think he'll die. I suppose he might, though: he surely has the highest salary of anyone, so that would free up the budget. After all, they killed SGA because they couldn't afford it, right?

Is there any reason why I should continue to watch this show? Aside from Eli?

Comments

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

UGH...I'm Wiccan so I find what happened on Eastwick not only morally offensive, repugnant and digusting - but as a practitioner, I'm outraged and horrified!! This is NOT what magick is for!! It is the total OPPOSITE of what magick is for! And for them to take such a gleeful tone while doing it?! That's even worse! Like it wasn't bad enough that she raped a gay man who's married (whether happily or no!) - she did it with a gift that is to be used to help others. This is just too...*is saddened, disgusted and angered*. And I wonder why people still wish to burn us at the stake?!

Seriously...quit wasting your time with these awful shows. Supernatural is airing on TNT at 10am Mon-Fri starting January 4th. DVR it! Well worth the time, effort and love there!

*hugs you*

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

I adore Supernatural. It's really superb.

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

they've had their mistakes now and again - but overall the fannish (drooling, clawing, crackhead type) love prevents me from seeing it. *Laughs* then again, Kripke DOES pull shit on us just to watch us go nuts! He's evil *nods* - but he gives good story!

*hugs*

Now...just tell HER that! *points at aelfgyfu_mead* - she keeps saying that she isn't sure about getting into it. I've been trying to convince her for two years, lol!

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

I've actually liked the way it went the whole time. It's not always pleasant, but it always leads to tons of character development and new stuff. He's really kept it fresh. I think some of the fans might have preferred that it just stayed 'early days', but it was important that the stakes kept getting higher and things kept getting worse, especially since there was a specific end date.

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

I was thinking along the lines of 'Bugs' and 'Playthings' - both of which had important scenes and information, but were horrible eps for all that.

That is what I love about SPN - the myth-arc doesn't detract from the week to week storylines - it only enhances it. and yet, it doesn't get so bogged down by it's own importance that it puts off the viewers. It can also (and I've proven it) make you feel at home no matter WHEN you start watching - and that only makes you curious as to what happened before - instead of being confused, lost and disinterested from the get go.

Man...I love this show too much, lol!

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

I don't remember which those were, so I'll take your word for it. I agree entirely about the show structure. It's a great blend of stand-alone and arc episodes, and each episode stands up by itself even if you missed a couple. Er, not that I've done that. I love it too much, too! ;)

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

I've always been pissed about it's obscurity, but then with most awesome shows I watch, this is the underlining problem. but i will say, I've never seen such a finely acted, written and plotted show - with such PRETTY main characters. Dean (my fav) kills me every time (with his pretty AND with JA's acting skills)! Guhhh!! So like Jack O'Neill in the fact that he seems so very simple - but yet he is so complex underneath! LOVE that!

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

Yep, it's just that good. I started out as a Sam fan, but now I like Dean just as much. Wonderful actor!

Most of my favorite shows are obscure. I love 'Life'-so obscure it got cancelled even though it was really great. I love Chuck, and it's barely escaping cancellation.... It seems like the shows with the best writing are mostly unvalued, sadly.

Looked up 'Bugs' and 'Playthings'. I'm afraid I liked 'Playthings'. I thought it was creepy. I don't remember 'Bugs', but the synopsis sounds rather like 'Swarmed', a movie with so little characterization that even Michael Shanks couldn't save it. ;) Perhaps it was a joke on the 'bugs take over a town' trope?

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

Tis hard to choose between the two (and most people watch for both brothers) and while I love Sam, Dean just...resonates with me! Must be the anti-hero lover in me, lol! Tis amazing too, the level of Dean fans in this fandom - usually tis the other way 'round, but this show always did break barriers and defy standards, lol!

Indeed. Seems you have to be politically motivated, vacant, insipid and worn out to get attention - thus, why I hate Hollywood sometimes! But YAY on TNT for giving joy out like this! Now so many people will be watching - just to see what this little show is all about.

Hee!! I just could see ahead of time what was going on - and Sam's drunken tirade seemed...off (though I blame the director for that - not the actor). Bugs was a horrible 'Swarmed' type deal, yes, lol! Had some funny lines in it - but REALLY not worth the time! Too bad, though - cause there is one scene in there that was hard to do and was pulled off beautifully by Jensen, Jared and their Director, Kim Manners.

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

Have you watched 'White Collar' yet? I like it a lot....

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah!! that last ep? The ending? What a JAW dropper!

*Squeals in delight!*

What can I say? I'm an angst-whore...like Supernatural wouldn't give THAT away

*Giggles*

*hugs you*

[sg-betty.livejournal.com]

Here's a link to my post where I talked about that in comments. Perhaps we can discuss. ;)

Thoughts

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

Sounds good - I'm there!

*hugs you*

[aelfgyfu_mead]

I think the writers know nothing about Wicca. The only redeeming aspect to the plot was that the character really seems not to have realized how strong she was and how much she was coercing him. She didn't know that he was gay or married until it was too late. The sad thing is that I really think it's not a terrible show, but a show that alternates brilliance with stupidity that makes my teeth ache. Two of the cast are absolutely awesome.

Eastwick has been canceled, so I think I have somewhere between one and three episodes left. I do think I need to back away from SGU before I am disgusted with the whole Stargate franchise.

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

OY...even worse!! Good show - dumbassedness everywhere!

The further the SG universe has traveled from the original the less inclined I am to watch...SG-1 Mk II wasn't even as bad as some of the things I've seen come out of the aftermath of it's demise. *Sigh*

Seriously...watch SPN - all good, no disappointment with an awesome plot, writing, actors and directing all around - with no variance from the overall story-arc. I think you'd fall in love with Dean, Sam, John, Bobby - shoot, even the bad guys are awesome! Has one of the best first seasons of any show I've ever seen - and just when you think Kripke can't make it any better, you find yourself proven wrong. I start each season with 'He can't possibly top the last one' and end it thinking 'My Gods! How can he possibly top THAT?!'. Yup....

*HUGS*

[aelfgyfu_mead]

Yes, the 'witches' on Eastwick are not Wiccans at all, so at least the show shouldn't really make misunderstandings of Wiccans worse (I hope). The premise is that three women begin to wield magic powers, but they don't know why, and they've spent most of the series so far wondering whether they really have powers or are simply imagining they do. Only the vaguest of spirituality has made any appearance on the show, and the word 'Wicca' hasn't been mentioned at all.

Maybe someday I'll get to SPN! I'm hesitant partly because I'm really sick of shows where characters I like die. (See my icon? Hard choice here—I have several icons of now-dead characters! I could have picked a userpic I have for a different show that shows two characters who were regular, and they died within a few episodes of each other.) I already know a number of the semi-regulars on SPN die. The other thing is that I've so little time I don't feel I can get into a show where I might want to start mainlining episodes! ("Hit me again! I need another!")

[a-phoenixdragon.livejournal.com]

Well...the Winchesters DO have a bad habit of getting the shit end of the stick - and yes, some characters DO die - but I've never seen a pointless death, and they draw you in and make you FEEL, so it's all worth it to me. I loved Janet - and what happened to her WAS pointless was the beginning of the end for me. I feel they should have ended SG-1 at that season, as the dynamics fell off and it just...dwindled. It is and always will be a show I love - but for some reason (and you'll hear this from a lot of SPN fans) Supernatural just TAKES IT TO THAT LEVEL and beyond. It is easily, hands down, THE best show I've ever fallen for. I still love my old shows and I always will. SG-1 is my first fandom fav and love - and it will always hold a place in my heart, but Supernatural...yeah. If you ever do get the time and the chance, your heart may break once in a while, but you'll never be sorry that it does. Does that make sense?

And then again - their comedy (which Kripke DOES throw in there) is some of the tops, too. They just knock it outta the park each and every time! Hopefully someday! And well, TNT has it now - so your opportunity (should you choose to accept it) will be tenfold. I'm gonna stop trying to convince you, lol - but I hope one day you will come and Join the Darkside (we have cookies!)

*Laughs* you'd be lucky anyway - Seasons 1-4 will be played on TNT with only two day breaks between! Think how long it is for all of us who've been watching from the beginning!! *Whimpers*

*Laughs again*

*hugs you*